{"id":145,"date":"2022-10-16T17:55:12","date_gmt":"2022-10-16T17:55:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/?p=145"},"modified":"2022-12-30T17:38:20","modified_gmt":"2022-12-30T17:38:20","slug":"mixing-coordinate-and-cumulative-adjectives-getting-commas-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/2022\/10\/16\/mixing-coordinate-and-cumulative-adjectives-getting-commas-right\/","title":{"rendered":"Using Order of Adjectives Classifications to Get Commas Right"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"684\" src=\"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-1024x684.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-1024x684.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-2048x1367.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-1200x801.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/beat-up-old-Fender-guitars-1140x760.jpg 1140w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>A few of Joe Bonamassa&#8217;s incredible old beat-up Fender guitars. (Four cumulative adjectives.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Are you confused by the distinction between <em>cumulative<\/em> versus <em>coordinate<\/em> adjectives and the tests used to classify them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do you sometimes struggle with the punctuation of <strong>two or more adjectives preceding a noun<\/strong>? Do you ask yourself, &#8220;<strong>Does a comma go between these<\/strong>?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As an English teacher, I used to gloss over this concept with a few quick exercises. As a proofreader, I was often stumped by the standard guidance, when it came to particular cases not covered by the <em>Chicago Manual of Style<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, I&#8217;ll cover the <strong>basic rules<\/strong>, then I&#8217;ll provide <strong>an alternative approach<\/strong>, and finally we&#8217;ll look at <strong>some trickier examples of comma use<\/strong> which are rarely discussed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Coordinate Adjectives<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Two or more <strong><em>coordinate <\/em>adjectives<\/strong> preceding a noun <strong>must be separated by commas<\/strong>. You can decide if adjectives are <em>coordinate<\/em> if you can separate them with <em>and<\/em>, both before and after the noun; and you can (usually) change their order\u2014all without changing the meaning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>He&#8217;s a kind, generous man. (Correct.)<\/li><li>He&#8217;s a generous, kind man.  (Correct.)<\/li><li>He&#8217;s a kind and generous man. (Correct.)<\/li><li>He&#8217;s a man who is generous and kind. (Correct.)<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Cumulative Adjectives<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>If the adjectives are not coordinate, they are designated <strong><em>cumulative<\/em> (or <em>essential<\/em>) adjectives<\/strong>. There are no commas between cumulative adjectives preceding a noun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>He wore a fake Swiss watch. (Correct.)<\/li><li>He wore <s>a Swiss fake watch<\/s>* (Incorrect, because <em>fake <\/em>modifies <em>Swiss watch<\/em>, and not just <em>watch<\/em>.)<\/li><li>His watch was Swiss and fake. (Does this sound strange? Does it mean the same thing?)<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So the problem for me was that sometimes I perceived that it wasn&#8217;t <em>horrible <\/em>to change the order of some adjectives, leaving me in doubt about whether I should separate them with a comma. It frequently seemed subjective to me. <strong>Luckily, there is a more objective solution.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Using Classifications for &#8220;Order of Adjectives&#8221; to Determine Comma Use<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The following is a chart which assigns <strong>a sequence number to types of determiners and adjectives<\/strong> that can precede a noun. This sequence is called the <strong><em>order of adjectives<\/em><\/strong>. The key here is that <strong>if you use more than one of a certain type of adjective<\/strong>, they are <em><strong>coordinate <\/strong><\/em><strong><em>adjectives<\/em><\/strong>, and <strong>a comma is required <\/strong>to separate them; but <strong>no commas are required between adjectives of different categories<\/strong>. For example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"631\" src=\"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Order-of-adjectives-and-determiners-4-1024x631.png\" alt=\"Order of adjectives\" class=\"wp-image-150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Order-of-adjectives-and-determiners-4-1024x631.png 1024w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Order-of-adjectives-and-determiners-4-300x185.png 300w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Order-of-adjectives-and-determiners-4-768x473.png 768w, https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Order-of-adjectives-and-determiners-4.png 1087w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So we could write these adjective-laden noun phrases if we <em>really<\/em> wanted to:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li><strong>My friend has some incredible beat-up old Fender guitars.<\/strong> (A series of cumulative adjectives requiring no commas.)<\/li><li><strong>She sat in a lovely, cosy little warm-toned sitting room.<\/strong> (Two coordinate &#8220;opinion&#8221; adjectives, separated by a comma, and three cumulative adjectives.) You could also write &#8220;warmly lit&#8221; instead of &#8220;warm-toned,&#8221; although I didn&#8217;t want to confuse the point above with the unhyphenated &#8211;<em>ly<\/em> adverb <em>warmly <\/em>standing on its own before the adjective <em>lit<\/em>. (<em>She sat in a lovely, cosy little<strong> warmly lit<\/strong> sitting room<\/em>.)<\/li><li><strong>He&#8217;s an unequalled low-life, dishonest, conniving scoundrel.<\/strong> (One coordinate adjective, followed by three cumulative &#8220;human-propensity&#8221; adjectives, separated among themselves by commas.) OR: <strong>He&#8217;s an unequalled dishonest, conniving, low-life scoundrel.<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>She walked in wearing an outrageous long-sleeved, v-necked bright-red polka-dot woolen party dress.<\/strong> (Two coordinate &#8220;shape&#8221; adjectives are separated by a comma.)<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s a tough call, but this framework can help you identify cumulative and coordinate adjectives. Because excessive adjectives slow down prose, it&#8217;s infrequent to find more than two\u2014not to mention three or more, and of mixed classes\u2014but these examples will help you add, omit, and remove <strong>commas <\/strong>with confidence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you have a good example, please share it with us in a comment.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Are you as confused as me by the distinction between &#8220;cumulative&#8221; vs. &#8220;coordinate&#8221; adjectives, and the tests used to classify them? Do you want to get your use of commas right?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/145"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=145"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/145\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":330,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/145\/revisions\/330"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=145"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=145"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brentmillerediting.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=145"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}